The MCU and the SSU: How I think it all ties together within the next ten years.
After the new rumor from Cosmic Circus of Kingpin, Mr. Negative, Kraven, and Scorpion appearing in Spider-Man 4 came out, I think I finally get what Sony's doing with their long term plan. I realize this isn't generally popular among MCU or SSU fans since most I come across on both sides seem to want to keep the two completely separate, and this whole write-up may very well not be what they're planning at all because it's basically all rumors at this point, but just from the latest developments we've heard, both through rumors and official sources, this is what I can personally piece together. Keep in mind, I may word some or all of this in a definitive sense, but I don't know what Sony's actually doing and this is only my theory. Be aware: this will probably be a very long read.
* Kraven the Hunter (October 6, 2023) - More or less, outside of a few references to Venom and Morbius here and there, Kraven's probably gonna be a standalone movie, much like its SSU predecessors. The real tie-in comes in the post-credits scene, following up on Morbius (2022), where Morbius and/or Vulture come to recruit Kraven to their team, who have followed his actions during the movie off-screen, either through the news or otherwise, promising "the hunt of a lifetime" in reference to the MCU's Spider-Man (I think Vulture makes more sense here just because of his actual connection to MCU Spidey, but if they can't get Keaton back, I imagine they'd just get Leto to fill in. That version may not flow as well as the Vulture one, but we did all see the Morbius post-credits scenes, lol.)
* Madame Web (February 16, 2024) - Madame Web, I think is the first SSU-set film that could really set things up outside of just post-credits scenes due to the nature of the character and how she relates to the Multiverse. If rumors are to be believed and this movie introduces Ezekiel and the Spider-Totems (I apologize ahead of time because the Totems are something I've never really been familiar with in Spider-Man lore, so I may be uninformed during parts of this), I believe this movie is critical in setting up the overall endgame for Sony's plans, but more on that later. It's also rumored to feature Mary Parker carrying an unborn Peter Parker in a 2000's setting and this plot-point may be further expanded on by Venom 3 (explained after this). By the end of the movie (again in the post-credits scene probably, lol), either Webb will be confronted by Vulture and his team of Morbius and Kraven or the other way around, but somehow, someway, she is the vehicle that transports those three to the MCU, either via Vulture being the only one to go back and Morbius and Kraven accidentally being brought along somehow or Webb being threatened by the three and her being forced to transport them.
* Venom 3 (2024) - I don't expect this one to have any kind of huge ties to anything else to come after it, but I do think it can follow up on Madame Web pretty well. There was a rumor a while back (can't remember where, sorry) that mentioned how Venom 3 would see Eddie and Venom transported back to the SSU from the MCU and now on some kind of mission to hunt down his universe's version of Spider-Man. When he finds him, he learns he's basically just a kid grown up after being born in the 2000's in Madame Web (If Venom 3 takes place when it actually releases, that'll place it in 2024. If SSU's Peter Parker is born in the late 2000's, maybe early 2010's, let's say, that could place him at around 14/15.). With all that, Eddie has to end up protecting him from Toxin, they fight, he beats him, roll credits. Even if the actual film's story is completely different from this and doesn't even feature child Peter, I don't expect it to change the rest of what I'm theorizing, if anything, at all, because I don't think this version of Venom will factor into things again until much later down the road, especially Hardy decides to truly call it quits after this one.
* MCU Spider-Man 4 (July/December 2025) - This is where som things I mentioned before are finally paid off. As we all heard that CC rumor I mentioned in the beginning, I think at this point, Spider-Man 4 follows up on whatever happens in Daredevil: Born Again and sees Kingpin assemble and fund a team consisting of Scorpion (who I theorize has already been in contact with Fisk for a while now), Mr. Negative (who is one of Scorpion's "boys on the outside" mentioned in Homecoming), and a revamped Shocker. It's at this point that Vulture had already returned to the MCU with Morbius and Kraven, he's met up with Scorpion again, and basically merges their two teams together, forming the Sinister Six. I don't think the Multiverse will play a large role in this movie, despite Morbius and Kraven both hailing from another universe. For the most part, this could quite literally be played off as those two just being associated with Vulture from the last time we've seen him. Basically, that's the crux of the crossover and the film is mainly Sinister Six-focused. I also expect MCU Miles Morales to be introduced in order to establish his relationship with Peter and for himself to become a Spider-Man later on in this overall saga. In a post-credits scene, Peter ends up bonding with the remaining Venom symbiote left behind at the end of No Way Home. In another scene, I could see Madame Web showing up to take Morbius and Kraven back to the SSU.
* Various other SSU projects and spinoffs (2025-?) - It's at this point, I think that Sony's gonna just go for it in terms of releasing SSU projects. Maybe they get one or two out before MCU Spider-Man 4, depending on the July or December release, but for the most part, I see them going forward with movies like El Muerto, Hypno-Hustler, maybe that Sydney Sweeney Spider-Woman movie, Jessica Drew, so on and so forth, as well as their shows like Silk, Spider-Man Noir, and probably a few more that will focus on other Spider-People after the release of Spider-Man 4. I imagine these will be sprinkled in throughout the years in between the upcoming Spider-Man and Avengers movies. If they're successful, they'll receive sequels and more seasons and potential spinoffs, if they're not, they'll go the way of Morbius and be one-offs. Regardless, as long as they have at least one appearance beforehand, I see all of these characters as being important in that I think all of them will factor into MCU Spider-Man 6's big finale crossover that I'll explain at the end.
* Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars (2026 and/or later) - MCU Spider-Man, now wearing the black suit, will probably feature heavily in at least one of these films, but I don't expect them to factor into what Sony's doing since this is mainly the MCU's big projects. I also don't expect The Kang Dynasty to keep its current May 2, 2025 date, so that'll move it past MCU Spider-Man 4. Tobey and Andrew, I could see both appearing in Secret Wars and doing their thing, but I don't see them factoring into Sony's plans too much until the very end, that is, if they both make it out of TKD and SW alive, but I suspect they will due to what I think Sony's building towards.
* MCU Spider-Man 5 (after Secret Wars) - I see this film as being the one where, after Spidey has wrestled with the symbiote on and off during the Avengers movies, he's realized it's become a problem and he needs to get rid of it somehow. Long story short, he does, and it bonds to Mac Gargan, who was beaten at the end of Spider-Man 4. Since this symbiote is technically a spawn of the SSU's Venom, much like how Carnage was, I envision this version of Venom being inherently evil and much more of a monster than the one we've seen bonded to Eddie, which fits well with Mac Gargan's revenge arc he goes through in the movie. But because Spidey is who he is, he beats Gargan's Venom, the symbiote's either contained or gone at that moment, everybody lives happily ever after, you get the point. Miles Morales also returns in this and at some point discovers that Peter is Spider-Man. The post credits scene involves Miles Morales being bitten by a spider and realizing what that entails.
* MCU Spider-Man 6 - Well, this is it, this is what the past however many years have been building to and the ultimate endgame of Sony's plans to this point and it's far simpler to explain than most other projects on this list. Someone like Morlun or Knull or any large, potentially Multiverse-ending character is the main villain in this, probably having something to do with the Spider-Totems established in Madame Web (again, I know nothing about these, lol). This means that literally everything Spider-Man ever factors into this movie. MCU Spider-Man's the lead, of course, and he's been working with Miles Morales and helping him become Spider-Man alongside him since the last film and, at this point, Madame Web is the one to kind of bring everyone together to save the Multiverse: MCU Peter and Miles, Tobey, Andrew, Hardy's Venom with a grown up version of his Spider-Man (depending on if Venom 3 goes that way), every other SSU lead we've seen up to this point, possibly the animated Spider-Verse stuff, maybe certain Spidey villains left over in the MCU, Tobey's, and Andrew's universes, as well. Basically, this is just a colossal crossover and a love-letter to every corner of Spider-Man's multiverse over what would possibly be 3 decades at this point. There's a big sacrifice at the end from Holland's Spidey (and maybe Tobey and Andrew as well, though Holland's I feel would be the most important one), the main villain's defeated, and the Multiverse is set right once again. Following this, MCU Miles Morales fully embraces his title as Spider-Man and swings off into the sunset, becoming the main MCU Spider-Man who leads his own films going forward.
Okay, so I know that was a long read (I did warn you, lol) and I realize that some or maybe all of this is wrong, but that's the fun of theorizing, so I hope nobody takes this incredibly serious, it's just one possible route Sony's taking with their future plans. I hope you did enjoy reading it, though, it took me like an hour to write all this out and longer than that to think it up, but this was fun, so thank you for taking time out of your day to swing by and check this out!
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